Mostafa El Sayed is the co-founder of Automata, which is working to make robotics affordable and accessible by installing it in the workplace.

Mostafa and his co-founder Suryansh were on EF4 and their first product, Eva is a bench top robot arm that can be set up in minutes, costs a fraction of other industrial arms, and can be used in a range of industries including metals, pharmaceuticals and electronics manufacturing.

Mostafa didn’t have a have a history in robotics before starting Automata and trained as an architect, working for Zaha Hadid, the designer of the London Olympics Aquatics Centre, before pivoting onto the startup path.

In this conversation we dive into Mostafa’s personal story, everything he’s learned about finding product market fit, hiring and funding in the process of building Automata and what he’s learned about himself along the way.